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[17:14] <mhwood> I'm having trouble locating the List of Contributors. The 3.0 release announcement says it's in the Preface to the Official Documentation, but the 4.0 doco. doesn't seem to have a Preface anymore.
[17:14] <hpottinger> curses!
[17:14] <mhwood> Meanwhile the Release Notes has contributors all through the New Features, Improvements, and Bug Fixes tables.
[17:15] <tdonohue> "Preface" has been renamed (by bram): https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC4x/Release+Notes
[17:15] <kompewter> [ Release Notes - DSpace 4.x Documentation - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC4x/Release+Notes
[17:15] <mhwood> Do we want a List of Contributors, or should we just rely on those tables?
[17:16] <tdonohue> (that's the same page as the old "Preface"...just renamed as part of Bram's reorganization work in the docs)
[17:16] <mhwood> So the Preface became the Release Notes? Aha!
[17:16] <tdonohue> mhwood: the "List of Contributors" is *beneath* the table...it's still there
[17:16] <tdonohue> but it currently says: "The following individuals have contributed directly to this release of DSpace: TODO"
[17:16] <hpottinger> sweet!
[17:17] <mhwood> It does? I can't find "the following individuals" in the Release Notes.
[17:17] <tdonohue> I worry that the table doesn't accurately reflect *everyone* who contributed..it only reflects the major new features/changes.
[17:17] <hpottinger> I'm looking at the 4.0 Release Notes and I'm not seeing a list of contributors...
[17:18] <tdonohue> mhwood: this page: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC4x/Release+Notes
[17:18] <kompewter> [ Release Notes - DSpace 4.x Documentation - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC4x/Release+Notes
[17:18] <mhwood> Oh. We have two Release Notes pages, then.
[17:18] <mhwood> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Notes
[17:18] <kompewter> [ DSpace Release 4.0 Notes - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Notes
[17:18] <tdonohue> There are now (confusingly) two Release Notes pages...the "official" one (in the docs) and the one over in the "DSpace" wiki area
[17:18] * hpottinger swoons.
[17:19] <hpottinger> dizzy
[17:19] <mhwood> Oh, good. I've been editing the freestanding one.
[17:20] <tdonohue> The one at "DSDOC4x/Release Notes" *used to be named* "DSDOC4x/Preface", but Bram renamed it.... It also basically just embeds the table from "DSpace Release 4.0 Notes"...so much of the content is shared between the two pages
[17:20] <tdonohue> So, essentially they are very similar pages
[17:20] * mhwood wonders if we could just embed the whole thing.
[17:22] <tdonohue> mhwood: almost..but, they serve different purposes. "DSDOC4x/Release Notes" is more of the final, official notes about the features, contributors. Whereas, "DSpace Release 4.0 Notes" is more of the "status" page...here's where we are with 4.0, and here's the timelines, etc.
[17:22] <tdonohue> There's a lot of shared content...but they are not the same
[17:23] <tdonohue> It's likely that we should eventually *rename* "DSpace Release 4.0 Notes" to something like "DSpace Release 4.0 Status" or just "DSpace Release 4.0" (the page that generally describes that release & its status)
[17:24] <hpottinger> can we change "Notes" on the "freestanding" page to "Status and Developer Notes"?
[17:24] <mhwood> Perhaps it should be renamed right now, if not sooner. It's already confused two of us for sure.
[17:25] <mhwood> I would suggest using a different name *from the start* for any such page about 5.0.
[17:25] <hpottinger> There's probably an "agile" word for what that page should be called
[17:25] <tdonohue> sure, feel free to rename. Best to rename now before sending out even more links to "DSpace Release 4.0 Notes".
[17:26] <mhwood> The freestanding page seems to be a combination of the official Release Notes and Changes in 4.x pages.
[17:26] <tdonohue> mhwood: yes, plus it also has status info (e.g. the timeline of the release -- which I like to keep around for historical purposes)
[17:26] <mhwood> hpottinger: your suggestion sounds good to me.
[17:27] <hpottinger> I'm clicking "edit" on the freestanding page to change the title in one minute, if there are no objections
[17:27] <mhwood> OK, I think I'm straightened out. Thanks!
[17:27] <tdonohue> it's a bit of a mouthful...but I guess it's ok
[17:27] <mhwood> hpottinger: make it so!
[17:29] <hpottinger> it is done: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Status+and+Developer+Notes
[17:29] <mhwood> Thanks!
[17:29] <kompewter> [ DSpace Release 4.0 Status and Developer Notes - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Status+and+Developer+Notes
[17:30] <hpottinger> I'm thinking of adding a note of clarification to the top of the Status and Developer Notes page
[17:31] <tdonohue> a part of me wonders if that could just be shortened to "DSpace Release 4.0 Status"... Not sure if we need the "and Developer Notes"...but, we can leave it as-is for now.
[17:31] <hpottinger> I wanted "Notes" in there to point Google in the right direction
[17:31] <mhwood> I would not object. It's just confusing to have two Release Notes pages.
[17:32] <tdonohue> hpottinger: Google should still find it. The Wiki will let you know the page name changed...look at the old link: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Notes
[17:32] <tdonohue> (i.e. the wiki tries to send you along to the most appropriate place)
[17:33] <hpottinger> tdonohue: cool, I'm thinking of what will happen down the road when one searches for "DSpace 4.0 Release Notes"
[17:34] <hpottinger> but, if we did drop "notes" from the status page, that would leave Google with only one choice
[17:34] <hpottinger> the right one
[17:34] <mhwood> So, I'm thinking that the contributors list could be the deduplicated union of the Reporters and Assignees from the New Features, Improvements, and Changes lists.
[17:34] <tdonohue> mhwood: yes, that's exactly how I have come up with the list of contributors in the past
[17:35] <mhwood> Will do. Thanks.
[17:35] <tdonohue> (mhwood: it's never 100% perfect, but it's good enough)
[17:35] <hpottinger> new title, I've been convinced: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Status
[17:35] <kompewter> [ DSpace Release 4.0 Status - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DSpace+Release+4.0+Status
[17:36] <tdonohue> hpottinger: thanks, looks good. We'll use "Status" going forward...it makes more sense for that page to be called "Status" anyhow. With most software the "Release Notes" are in the official documentation
[17:37] <mhwood> Got an empty list started. Now to glean some content for it. I added mention of "others who reviewed and commented on their work".
[17:40] <tdonohue> mhwood: the draft announcement is looking good so far. I like Bram's suggestion though to bring the "biggest features" to the top of the list. Also, we need to update the links which we just changed...there's also an old link to the "Preface"
[17:42] <hpottinger> Added a "Where are the Release Notes? informational block to the top of the status page
[17:42] <mhwood> Bloody Confluence keeps losing my login token....
[17:42] * hpottinger whacks Confluence in the head.
[17:43] <mhwood> Maybe that's what's doing it.
[17:43] <hpottinger> oops
[17:44] <tdonohue> We are having Session issues still with Confluence & JIRA. We've narrowed things down to JIRA *killing* your Confluence session (so, close any JIRA tabs you have open..anytime JIRA reauthenticates, your Wiki session dies). We're working on a fix..sorry
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[17:44] <mhwood> OK, I understand, and it did feel like that is what was happening.
[17:45] <mhwood> I did have a Jira page open. Not anymore.
[17:48] <tdonohue> it's been a pain. We've been trying to track down this session issue for some time. We've finally narrowed it down recently. You can replicate it by logging into Confluence, then logging into JIRA. JIRA unfortunately ends your Confluence session. :(
[17:48] <tdonohue> moving over to #dspace
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