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[14:00] <cwilper> Starting: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCREPO/2012-01-19+-+Fedora+Committer+Meeting
[14:00] <cwilper> (note the new dial-in info)
[14:03] <sbayliss> where do i key in the access code?
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[14:05] <cwilper> Hi Steve, it depends on your version of Skype. On mac, there's a keypad looking icon that brings up the keypad.
[14:06] <sbayliss> hmm ok, I'm looking...
[14:07] <cwilper> On Windows, I guess it's hidden a little bit. Somewhere under "Call" there should be an option to show dial pad.
[14:07] <eddies> under the Window menu on a Mac there's a "Dial Pad"
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[14:08] <sbayliss> it's on the little down-arrow next to the volume control in the call window
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[14:14] <sbayliss> Steve taking notes
[14:14] <eddies> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCREPO/2012-01-19+-+Fedora+Committer+Meeting
[14:15] <sbayliss> chris last week signed up for fcrepo-1047
[14:15] <eddies> https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-1047
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[14:15] <sbayliss> chirs reports issue limited to whole-ingest call rather than just add datastream
[14:16] <sbayliss> chris looking at doing some tests for this
[14:16] <sbayliss> options are - unit tests on checksumming, looks unwieldy (module needs fake server etc)
[14:17] <sbayliss> system test - gives round-trip tests, eg in config A/B/C/Q
[14:17] <sbayliss> but autochecksum is not an install option, so not on by default
[14:18] <sbayliss> steve reports need for same thing
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[14:20] <sbayliss> steve suggests option for updating config file somewhere between installing and spinning up tomcat
[14:21] <sbayliss> chris suggests additional installer options
[14:21] <sbayliss> frank reports difficulties running system tests, would not like to see more complexity
[14:22] <sbayliss> would rather see more in unit tests
[14:23] <sbayliss> adam suggests making use of cargo
[14:23] <barmintor> sorry I'm late… where is the call?
[14:23] <sbayliss> ben - details on web page
[14:23] <sbayliss> ben - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCREPO/2012-01-19+-+Fedora+Committer+Meeting
[14:23] <elschlomo> freeconferencecallhd.8053991200
[14:23] <elschlomo> then enter access code from the wiki page
[14:24] <sbayliss> adam reports that cargo can set up the tomcat instance
[14:25] <sbayliss> adam reports it is fairly straightforward
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[14:25] <sbayliss> but maybe doesn't solve chris' problem directory
[14:26] <ajs6f> http://cargo.codehaus.org
[14:26] <sbayliss> chris: challenge is to get this done without several days of refactoring
[14:27] <ajs6f> Cargo is interesting for the longer term.
[14:27] <ajs6f> Not the immediate task in front of Chris.
[14:27] <sbayliss> adam asks if this is actually a problem of modularisation
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[14:29] <sbayliss> frank has used reflection for mock objects, private fields
[14:30] <sbayliss> adam: osgi would help
[14:30] <sbayliss> (but far away in the future)
[14:31] <sbayliss> chris: having some form of constructor injection for all these modules would help
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[14:31] <sbayliss> (dependency injection)
[14:32] <ajs6f> Spring prefers setter injection.
[14:32] <ajs6f> So does Blueprint.
[14:32] <sbayliss> frank volunteers to write unit test for checksumming
[14:33] <ajs6f> That's the right approach-- volunteerism!
[14:33] <sbayliss> chris: config is scattered around
[14:33] <sbayliss> chris: test case is where autochecksumming is set to true, then does ingest, and also add datastream, and verifes checksums
[14:36] <sbayliss> steve: the general case of running tests against configs not supported by the installer still exists
[14:36] <sbayliss> frank: should we think of a separate test project
[14:37] <sbayliss> (integration test project)
[14:38] <sbayliss> adam: we partly there with the factored-out test projects we already have
[14:42] <ajs6f> Alll of our integration tests are system tests because it's difficult to assemble smaller integration tests.
[14:42] <sbayliss> actions - chris will continue to search for cause of bug, frank will work on some form of tests that are not at system level (so, integration or unit)
[14:42] <ajs6f> Dependency injection would help doing that.
[14:43] <sbayliss> frank - akubra hdfs
[14:43] <sbayliss> frank - implemented a couple of months ago fedora on hdfs
[14:43] <sbayliss> distributed filesystem with non-distributed fedora, worked quite well
[14:44] <sbayliss> scape project has interest in this
[14:44] <sbayliss> frank would be keen if we could take a look
[14:44] <sbayliss> http://www.scape-project.eu/
[14:45] <elschlomo> https://github.com/fasseg/akubra-hdfs
[14:45] <sbayliss> hdfs does have a memory-bound component
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[14:46] <sbayliss> use akubra wiki space to create discussion pages
[14:47] <sbayliss> akubra/third party implementations
[14:47] <sbayliss> tck provides good coverage
[14:48] <sbayliss> 12 minutes remaining...
[14:49] <sbayliss> chris suggests talking about 3.6 and where we are at
[14:49] <sbayliss> are we just adding to the 3.6 bucket
[14:50] <sbayliss> time base releases are good with volunteers
[14:50] <sbayliss> adam: is there anything that really does have to go in 3.6?
[14:50] <sbayliss> eddie: summer of code stuff needs to go in
[14:51] <sbayliss> eddie:: unless we are abandoning 3.final being performance related, we need to make some strides with this
[14:51] <sbayliss> eddie: don't yet have measurements for fedora's public api
[14:51] <ajs6f> +1 for GSoC
[14:52] <sbayliss> eddie: we are still at stage of assessing
[14:52] <sbayliss> adam: assessment is the first step
[14:52] <sbayliss> adam: lets talk about that first
[14:53] <sbayliss> chris: we have identified some low-hanging fruit
[14:53] <sbayliss> chris: we should not back off on 3.6 being 3.last
[14:55] <sbayliss> chris: jmeter is a clear direction
[14:55] <sbayliss> chris: but we need to be more solid on who is doing what
[14:56] <sbayliss> adam: we do have the old stuff
[14:56] <ajs6f> the Grinder stuff, but it's using old tooling.
[14:56] <sbayliss> chris: we should have a working meeting on this
[14:56] <ajs6f> +1 to a working meeting.
[14:56] <sbayliss> chris: converting old grinder stuff into jmeter stuff
[14:56] <sbayliss> chris suggests next week for this
[14:57] <sbayliss> dan: can we augment meeting with screen sharing
[14:57] <sbayliss> eg http://www.mikogo.com/
[14:58] <sbayliss> chris and dan to discuss offline
[14:58] <sbayliss> discussing issue: https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-1051
[14:59] <sbayliss> "Installer incorrectly requires user to provide a database user password"
[14:59] <sbayliss> chris: MySQL allows blank password (ident based authentication)
[15:00] <sbayliss> chris: so this could be a valid production config we should support
[15:00] <sbayliss> eddie: thinks it is a valid issue to raise - but if we are committed to getting 3.6 out we should draw a line in the sand
[15:00] <sbayliss> eddie: thinks this is closer to an enhancement
[15:01] <sbayliss> chris: agrees it does not go into 3.6; unless someone fixes and gives us a pull request
[15:02] <sbayliss> chris: makes sense to open though
[15:02] <sbayliss> chris: but not put in 3.6 bucket
[15:03] <sbayliss> adam: GSoC - adam's taking ownership and pushing forward on this
[15:03] <sbayliss> great!
[15:03] <sbayliss> next week is the working call on 3.6 performance metrics / framework
[15:04] <sbayliss> eddie: test plan for jmeter should be under source control somewhere
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[15:05] <sbayliss> dan suggests everyone should download jmeter and do the "hello world"
[15:05] <sbayliss> meeting closed
[15:05] <ajs6f> Bye everyone!
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