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IRC Log for 2012-02-28

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[19:00] <PeterDietz> Hi all DSpace / DuraSpacer's. I have an office meeting from 2:30-3:30 and it typically runs long. I'll try to join the skype meeting afterwards
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[19:48] <tdonohue> Hi all, quick reminder that the DSpace Developers Virtual Summit starts up again at the top of the hour via Skype (with #duraspace IRC backchannel): https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DevMtg+2012-02-27+-+Virtual+Summit
[19:48] <kompewter> [ DevMtg 2012-02-27 - Virtual Summit - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DevMtg+2012-02-27+-+Virtual+Summit
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[19:58] <tdonohue> Hi all, DSpace Developers Virtual Summit Day #2 is about to get started via Skype (and this IRC channel). Connection info up at: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DevMtg+2012-02-27+-+Virtual+Summit
[19:58] <kompewter> [ DevMtg 2012-02-27 - Virtual Summit - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/DevMtg+2012-02-27+-+Virtual+Summit
[20:02] <tdonohue> Anyone else planning to join today's Virtual Summit discussion? mdiggory? kshepherd? scottatm?
[20:02] <scottatm> oh, yes.
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[20:09] <tdonohue> Richard - seems to be a "lurking assumption" that there's only one REST API. But, no reason why we couldn't have multiple or different REST APIs / implementations / visualations
[20:11] <tdonohue> Twitter does things in this fashion: https://dev.twitter.com/docs
[20:11] <kompewter> [ Documentation | Twitter Developers ] - https://dev.twitter.com/docs
[20:12] <tdonohue> Twitter does authZ via OAuth, etc. But they have several RESTful interfaces -- a basic REST API, Search API, Streaming API, etc.
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[20:14] <tdonohue> touching back on yesterdays' topic of REST API -- some rethinking at play. Some degree of 'evolution' or 'survival of the fittest' may be a good thing at this point in time.
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[20:14] <tdonohue> Can we mature the thinking of Business Logic API by thinking of it as a REST(ful) API
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[20:18] <tdonohue> sidetopic - MarkD has some concerns about the SWORD2 implementation around creating new bundles, etc.
[20:20] <hpottinger> just signed in, sorry, late
[20:21] <mhwood> [waves]
[20:23] <tdonohue> Building a list of Business Services for a Business Logic API
[20:24] <tdonohue> Richard: "Business Process" are things like Submission (special ingest workflow)
[20:25] <tdonohue> "particular structured way of moving content into DSpace workflow/archive"
[20:26] <tdonohue> Reviewer Workflow is another service
[20:26] <mdiggory> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/REST+API
[20:26] <kompewter> [ REST API - DSpace - DuraSpace Wiki ] - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/REST+API
[20:27] <tdonohue> Creating content / users /groups. Is this part of "business services"? Or is this Content API?
[20:29] <mdiggory> Supported actions:
[20:29] <mdiggory> createAdministrators
[20:29] <mdiggory> createSubmitters
[20:29] <mdiggory> createTemplateItem
[20:29] <mdiggory> createWorkflowGroup
[20:29] <tdonohue> Set of things that you have to do to actually "create" the Community/Collection (assign roles, etc) could be a business process
[20:31] <hpottinger> interpretive dance workflow
[20:31] <tdonohue> "Creation Business Process"
[20:32] <tdonohue> "Creation Business Process" could be for Items (Submission workflow), or even Communities/Collections (normal steps/actions to create them)
[20:34] <tdonohue> Richard - brings up point that DSpace is lagging behind in Mobile devices.
[20:35] <tdonohue> Could be two separate ways to move more mobile -- (1) making current UI's more "mobile friendly", and (2) becoming more RESTful to build more native apps/clients
[20:36] <mdiggory> Smaller Activities : User Feedback, Statistics, Metadata Registry, Bitstream Format Registry
[20:37] <mdiggory> Running Curation Tasks on Collections and Items
[20:38] <mhwood> Those are nice smaller topics that could be implemented somewhat quickly.
[20:38] <richardrodgers> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_Web_Design
[20:38] <kompewter> [ Responsive Web Design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_Web_Design
[20:39] <tdonohue> Curation Task framework "RESTFul API" - Richard is working on this & will post to Github soon
[20:41] <mdiggory> Additional Business Activities: Interacting with Authority Control, Taxonomies, Controlled Vocabularies
[20:45] <tdonohue> Richard -- this is an area that needs to be broken out into a Service (authority control) -- it's bound too tightly in current UI(s)
[20:47] <tdonohue> MarkD -- opportunity to truly expand Authority Control so that there is a way to manage/link in internal or external vocabs/taxonomies
[20:49] <PeterDietz> PeterDietz just joined
[20:53] <tdonohue> Is Business Logic API just *acting* on objects?
[20:53] <tdonohue> Are things like "discovery" of content (Search/Browse) separate from Business Logic API?
[20:54] <tdonohue> Business Logic API is *acting* on objects and *locating/identifying* objects?
[20:56] <tdonohue> MarkD -- Discovery Module in 1.8 is now made a bit more generic/pluggable. Doesn't need to be Solr underneath. Could Discovery be re-purposed into a Search/Browse RESTFul API?
[21:00] <tdonohue> Should Business Logic API be simplified to just be REST API? Get/Post/Put/Delete of specific objects? (Brainstorm)
[21:02] <tdonohue> REST API -- are we satisfied with current Sakai implementation?
[21:03] <tdonohue> Do we want to rework to use Spring WebMVC or some other implementation?
[21:05] <tdonohue> Several had concerns about complexity (and lack of potential ongoing support) for Sakai REST API implementation.
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